D - object serialization any time soon?

no where.no (17/17) Oct 27 2003 I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from...

shinichiro.h (4/5) Oct 27 2003 I also thought the hash's benchmark strange, and I checked it.
Ilya Minkov (5/7) Oct 28 2003 I suggest you go to www.opend.org and download DLI, the old D for Linux

no where.no (23/30) Oct 28 2003 Thanks for the pointer. I'm wondering why it's not included in the stan...
no where.no (23/30) Oct 28 2003 Thanks for the pointer. I'm wondering why it's not included in the stan...
no where.no (23/30) Oct 28 2003 Thanks for the pointer. I'm wondering why it's not included in the stan...

Walter (5/22) Nov 01 2003 I don't have one for that yet, sorry.

no where.no writes:

I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from jumping
to D.  Walter, what's your roadmap for this?


BTW, follow the D link from (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html)

http://www.functionalfuture.com/d/

why D is so bad on the follwing 4 tests in the middle? especially the hashes?


fibo (42)       6.597  6.762  5.910  8.051 
-------------------------------------------
ackermann (12)  3.005  2.929  6.064  9.017 
hash (1000000)  1.954  2.653 14.929  3.013 
hash2 (2000)    4.440  4.059 32.162 21.041 
matrix (100000) 7.039  7.051 16.293 10.782 
------------------------------------------
ary3 (1000000)  9.567 10.209  9.255  9.097 

It also looks strange: D is quite good on fibo, but bad on ackermann;
again good at array, but bad on matrix.

Walter, has you got time to look at these issues?

Oct 27 2003

shinichiro.h <s31552 mail.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> writes:

 why D is so bad on the follwing 4 tests in the middle? especially the hashes?

I also thought the hash's benchmark strange, and I checked it.

http://user.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~s31552/wp/d/hashbench2_en.rd.html

-------
 shinichiro.h

Oct 27 2003

Ilya Minkov <webmaster midiclub.de.vu> writes:

no where.no wrote:
 I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from
jumping
 to D.  Walter, what's your roadmap for this?

I suggest you go to www.opend.org and download DLI, the old D for Linux 
  compiler. In the source of its Phobos, you will find pickle.d - take 
it and see if you can make it work with current DMD versions.

-eye

Oct 28 2003

no where.no writes:

Thanks for the pointer.  I'm wondering why it's not included in the standard
distribution? since both win32 and linux version are now distributed togather.

Also, I just quickly browsed the code, and find the dump(obj) function is using
a linear search.  Will this be too slow, should a hash-table be used here?

/* Store the object */
void dump (Object object)
{
dumpClass (object.classinfo); /* Save the type */

/* See if a handle for it already exists */
for (int c = 0; c < objects.length; c ++)
{
if (objects [c] === object)
{
jar.uintSave (c + 1);
return;
}
}

/* Not found, output it */
objects ~= object; /* Register the object */
jar.uintSave (objects.length); /* Save the handle */
dumpCoreClass (object.classinfo, object); /* Save the object data */
}


In article <bnlvbs$2t0e$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
no where.no wrote:
 I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from
jumping
 to D.  Walter, what's your roadmap for this?

I suggest you go to www.opend.org and download DLI, the old D for Linux 
  compiler. In the source of its Phobos, you will find pickle.d - take 
it and see if you can make it work with current DMD versions.

-eye

Oct 28 2003

no where.no writes:

Thanks for the pointer.  I'm wondering why it's not included in the standard
distribution? since both win32 and linux version are now distributed togather.

Also, I just quickly browsed the code, and find the dump(obj) function is using
a linear search.  Will this be too slow, should a hash-table be used here?

/* Store the object */
void dump (Object object)
{
dumpClass (object.classinfo); /* Save the type */

/* See if a handle for it already exists */
for (int c = 0; c < objects.length; c ++)
{
if (objects [c] === object)
{
jar.uintSave (c + 1);
return;
}
}

/* Not found, output it */
objects ~= object; /* Register the object */
jar.uintSave (objects.length); /* Save the handle */
dumpCoreClass (object.classinfo, object); /* Save the object data */
}


In article <bnlvbs$2t0e$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
no where.no wrote:
 I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from
jumping
 to D.  Walter, what's your roadmap for this?

I suggest you go to www.opend.org and download DLI, the old D for Linux 
  compiler. In the source of its Phobos, you will find pickle.d - take 
it and see if you can make it work with current DMD versions.

-eye

Oct 28 2003

no where.no writes:

Thanks for the pointer.  I'm wondering why it's not included in the standard
distribution? since both win32 and linux version are now distributed togather.

Also, I just quickly browsed the code, and find the dump(obj) function is using
a linear search.  Will this be too slow, should a hash-table be used here?

/* Store the object */
void dump (Object object)
{
dumpClass (object.classinfo); /* Save the type */

/* See if a handle for it already exists */
for (int c = 0; c < objects.length; c ++)
{
if (objects [c] === object)
{
jar.uintSave (c + 1);
return;
}
}

/* Not found, output it */
objects ~= object; /* Register the object */
jar.uintSave (objects.length); /* Save the handle */
dumpCoreClass (object.classinfo, object); /* Save the object data */
}


In article <bnlvbs$2t0e$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Ilya Minkov says...
no where.no wrote:
 I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from
jumping
 to D.  Walter, what's your roadmap for this?

I suggest you go to www.opend.org and download DLI, the old D for Linux 
  compiler. In the source of its Phobos, you will find pickle.d - take 
it and see if you can make it work with current DMD versions.

-eye

Oct 28 2003

"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:

<no where.no> wrote in message news:bnkip1$140o$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I think object persistence is the last missing feature that keep me from

jumping
 to D.  Walter, what's your roadmap for this?

I don't have one for that yet, sorry.

 BTW, follow the D link from (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/index.html)

 http://www.functionalfuture.com/d/

 why D is so bad on the follwing 4 tests in the middle? especially the

hashes?

I don't know. I'll have to check it out.


 fibo (42)       6.597  6.762  5.910  8.051
 -------------------------------------------
 ackermann (12)  3.005  2.929  6.064  9.017
 hash (1000000)  1.954  2.653 14.929  3.013
 hash2 (2000)    4.440  4.059 32.162 21.041
 matrix (100000) 7.039  7.051 16.293 10.782
 ------------------------------------------
 ary3 (1000000)  9.567 10.209  9.255  9.097

 It also looks strange: D is quite good on fibo, but bad on ackermann;
 again good at array, but bad on matrix.

 Walter, has you got time to look at these issues?

Nov 01 2003

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