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reply Ant <Ant_member pathlink.com> writes:
D wrap for GTK+

Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
probably 30+ hours

my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
The interest you show when I first let you know
about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
on the thing probably I will work on it slower.

see the saved screen shots at
http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/

and help me with my compilation problem :( 

Ant
Aug 07 2003
next sibling parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Ant" <Ant_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
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 D wrap for GTK+

 Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
 probably 30+ hours

 my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
 The interest you show when I first let you know
 about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
 on the thing probably I will work on it slower.


Things take a bit of time to catch on. I worked on D for a couple years
before anyone noticed it <g>.
Aug 07 2003
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk> writes:
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ant" <Ant_member pathlink.com>
Newsgroups: D
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:45 AM
Subject: D wrap for GTK+



 D wrap for GTK+

 Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
 probably 30+ hours

 my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
 The interest you show when I first let you know
 about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
 on the thing probably I will work on it slower.


you should do it for your own  personal reasons, currently most D ppl seems
to all be reinventing the wheels
I ported a large amount of the win32 headers, produced a templated library
to allow automatic dll function importing, got directx working from D
(someone else metioned that they had direct3d working but I've not heard any
more for a while) I even tried to get the ppl working on win32 wrappers etc
to co-operate but that was a fruitless task so resigned myself to continuing
my attempts to break the compiler with my bad coding (especially whilst
porting C files) and trying to get a 10 line "this breaks the compiler" to
post to Walter can be as much of a task as the 200K that was breaking it was
to write in the first place.

had I seem the post I would have been interested to see if I could use it to
interface to the win32 gtk that comes with gimp 4 win32. have you put your
sources online ?

as for your other problems, import A then B, you did not supply any test
files that exibited the problem, I think I like others tend to ignore posts
like that because we've got our own set of "problem" code issues and don't
want to spent the time trying to reproduce an error to save someone else
doing some work.

if you post simple examples that show up your problems the usually I'll try
them out and see if I can fix them, currently I can only build win32 D apps,
tried to put linux dmd onto a dlxlinux running under bochs but that did not
work (for several reasons) the redhat 60 images failed to run. (anyone got a
space vmware key ?)


 see the saved screen shots at
 http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/

 and help me with my compilation problem :(

 Ant
Aug 07 2003
next sibling parent reply Stephan Wienczny <wienczny web.de> writes:
Mike Wynn wrote:

 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: "Ant" <Ant_member pathlink.com>
 Newsgroups: D
 Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:45 AM
 Subject: D wrap for GTK+
 
 
 

D wrap for GTK+

Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
probably 30+ hours

my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
The interest you show when I first let you know
about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
on the thing probably I will work on it slower.


 
 
 you should do it for your own  personal reasons, currently most D ppl seems
 to all be reinventing the wheels
 I ported a large amount of the win32 headers, produced a templated library
 to allow automatic dll function importing, got directx working from D
 (someone else metioned that they had direct3d working but I've not heard any
 more for a while) I even tried to get the ppl working on win32 wrappers etc
 to co-operate but that was a fruitless task so resigned myself to continuing
 my attempts to break the compiler with my bad coding (especially whilst
 porting C files) and trying to get a 10 line "this breaks the compiler" to
 post to Walter can be as much of a task as the 200K that was breaking it was
 to write in the first place.


Do you have a website?
Aug 08 2003
parent reply "Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk> writes:
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stephan Wienczny" <wienczny web.de>
Newsgroups: D
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: D wrap for GTK+



 you should do it for your own  personal reasons, currently most D ppl




seems

 to all be reinventing the wheels
 I ported a large amount of the win32 headers, produced a templated




library

 to allow automatic dll function importing, got directx working from D
 (someone else metioned that they had direct3d working but I've not heard




any

 more for a while) I even tried to get the ppl working on win32 wrappers




etc

 to co-operate but that was a fruitless task so resigned myself to




continuing

 my attempts to break the compiler with my bad coding (especially whilst
 porting C files) and trying to get a 10 line "this breaks the compiler"




to

 post to Walter can be as much of a task as the 200K that was breaking it




was

 to write in the first place.


 Do you have a website?


my latest code was put onto
http://www.geocities.com/one_mad_alien/dcom_not_dcom.html
old stuff on http://www.l8night.co.uk/mwynn/d/   [no ftp at present to
update it]
Aug 08 2003
parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
"Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bgvs46$2ago$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 my latest code was put onto
 http://www.geocities.com/one_mad_alien/dcom_not_dcom.html
 old stuff on http://www.l8night.co.uk/mwynn/d/   [no ftp at present to
 update it]


You gotta keep me up to date on these links so I can put them in
www.digitalmars.com/d/dlinks.html!
Aug 08 2003
prev sibling parent reply Ant <Ant_member pathlink.com> writes:
In article <bgvb77$1r7l$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...


you should do it for your own  personal reasons,


Hey! I said slower (I'm prety frustraded right now,
I'm faccing the entire weekend repeting my work from last weekend,
I've only myself to blame...) 


I ported a large amount of the win32


I can't use that OS, I use it only when I'm getting paid for it.


as for your other problems, import A then B, you did not supply any test
files that exibited the problem


I don't want anybody to work on my problems, I was hopping that someone
knew what it is. As I said I fixed it 2 days ago but almost by accident
and I still don't understand it.

thanks for your reply (and the others)
Aug 08 2003
parent reply "Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk> writes:
"Ant" <Ant_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:bh0ebr$2s58$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 In article <bgvb77$1r7l$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...


you should do it for your own  personal reasons,


 Hey! I said slower (I'm prety frustraded right now,
 I'm faccing the entire weekend repeting my work from last weekend,
 I've only myself to blame...)


I got the impression that you had expected ppl to be excited that you'd done
something for them, and then upset that no-one was taking any notice.
how much of the GTK bindings did you get done, I would be very interested in
seeing what you have so I can get some win32 GTK bindings working, as I
intend to revisit the SWT (IBM's Java gui layer used on Eclipse) and see if
I can produce a D win32+GTK port of SWT (seems to me to be the better of the
bunch of GUI libs I've used/read through) [or SWT style lib anyhow]


I ported a large amount of the win32


 I can't use that OS, I use it only when I'm getting paid for it.


the D linux is a new inclusion (there was DLI first) so I started on win32.
I'd runing D under rather be doing FreeBSD or BeOS, but only have one PC at
present and for the same reasons (work) I have to have Win2K on it.


as for your other problems, import A then B, you did not supply any test
files that exibited the problem


 I don't want anybody to work on my problems, I was hopping that someone
 knew what it is. As I said I fixed it 2 days ago but almost by accident
 and I still don't understand it.


how can we know what the problem was without an example to work from, and if
you don't want ppl to work on your problems don't post them! you could have
posted the fix or at least a "this is what I've done is this the D way to
solve problem X" incase it is a compiler of lang issue with nested module
inclued and/or forward references (may be a symbol clash, they cause all
manner of unexpected error messages, especialy if you have someother code
error in another inluded module seemingly due to the D compilers attempts to
recover from an error and correctly report later errors (rather then stoping
at the first error))

anyway best of luck getting GTK bindings working if you get any problems
I've become quite adept at porting C headers and working out what the more
obscure D error msgs are caused by. (partly ported C files are mainly to
blame for the extensive number of times I've crashed the compiler).
Aug 08 2003
parent reply Ant <Ant_member pathlink.com> writes:
(What happened to my post? - I'll try again)

In article <bh0gn5$2ude$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...



how much of the GTK bindings did you get done,


Almost all widgets have a farly good/complete implementation,
and the most common callbacks are implement through listener interfaces.
I'm missing only some obscure widgets (like the rulers that
are very specific) and the TreeView doesn't work properly.
(The oddest thing is that I can't create a valid GValue, must be some
ridiculous simple problem, probably that's was wrong with the TreeView)


 I would be very interested in
seeing what you have so I can get some win32 GTK bindings working,


I believe that if you have GTK setup for windows you need only to compile DUI,
maybe with small changes (but what do I know of windows development?...)

The next think I'll do on this project is to post it on the web,
at very least it will be a safer backup.


 as I
intend to revisit the SWT (IBM's Java gui layer used on Eclipse) and see if
I can produce a D win32+GTK port of SWT


I'm very suspicious of SWT, I use eclipse both at work (w2k) and at home
(Linux) and the linux version is almost unusable because it's too slow,
it might be the java VM and it got much better with GTK 2.2.2 (from 1.2).


how can we know what the problem was without an example to work from,


sorry, I though the description was good enough.
Anyway I need to reproduce it in a simpler setting so I can try to understant
what's going on. I'll post that if I get stuck.


you don't want ppl to work on your problems don't post them!


just trying to say that I will work on it. My idea was if someone already
had the same problem perhaps could share the info.
(sorry if I don't express myself correctly)


anyway best of luck getting GTK bindings working if you get any problems
I've become quite adept at porting C headers


Do you have any automation for it?
(in D, portable to Linux)
I see that on the D todo list.
I thought about creating one but did every thing by hand.
Just copy a minimum set of structs,
most of the public functions declarations and puting "extern (C)"
the fewer things you have from GTK the easyer 
to upgrade to new releases of it.


 and working out what the more
obscure D error msgs are caused by. (partly ported C files are mainly to
blame for the extensive number of times I've crashed the compiler).





 Aug 08 2003



  parent reply "Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk>  writes:


"Ant" <Ant_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:bh0qnc$66i$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 (What happened to my post? - I'll try again)

 In article <bh0gn5$2ude$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Mike Wynn says...



how much of the GTK bindings did you get done,


 Almost all widgets have a farly good/complete implementation,
 and the most common callbacks are implement through listener interfaces.
 I'm missing only some obscure widgets (like the rulers that
 are very specific) and the TreeView doesn't work properly.
 (The oddest thing is that I can't create a valid GValue, must be some
 ridiculous simple problem, probably that's was wrong with the TreeView)


 I would be very interested in
seeing what you have so I can get some win32 GTK bindings working,


 I believe that if you have GTK setup for windows you need only to compile


DUI,

 maybe with small changes (but what do I know of windows development?...)


hopefully, I have the sources to 1.3 and 2.2 so should be o.k. if there are
issues there, not sure which is installed, 1.3 I think
I might check through the PHP-GTK sources that I know worked under win32.
failing that I might reinstall the cygwin X server and have a play with
either GTK under cygwinX or X programming and start writing a widget set (or
use lesstif).


 The next think I'll do on this project is to post it on the web,
 at very least it will be a safer backup.


always a good plan, I used to use my web site as an offsite store :)

 as I
intend to revisit the SWT (IBM's Java gui layer used on Eclipse) and see




if

I can produce a D win32+GTK port of SWT


 I'm very suspicious of SWT, I use eclipse both at work (w2k) and at home
 (Linux) and the linux version is almost unusable because it's too slow,
 it might be the java VM and it got much better with GTK 2.2.2 (from 1.2).


it could be that SWT is a wrapper over GTK which is a wrapper over X, how
does its performance compare to Swing (i.e. NetBeans IDE) looks nice but
runs slower than 1.0.2 awt on a p90 on my Duron 800.
it might also be your old GTK was not using the local X extensions, from
what I remember of X programming there are ways to improve performance if
your running your client app on the same machine as the X server.
the AWT I believe uses motif (or did last time I used Java on Unix [jdk
1.0.2])


anyway best of luck getting GTK bindings working if you get any problems
I've become quite adept at porting C headers


 Do you have any automation for it?
 (in D, portable to Linux)
 I see that on the D todo list.
 I thought about creating one but did every thing by hand.
 Just copy a minimum set of structs,
 most of the public functions declarations and puting "extern (C)"
 the fewer things you have from GTK the easyer
 to upgrade to new releases of it.


you do know you can use extern(C) { .... file ... }  :)

some time ago I started ... http://www.l8night.co.uk/mwynn/d/deimos.html
documenting what was required, I wrote a version (burried on a backup cd
somewhere now)
but found that much of the win32 headers required a bit of manual tweeking
everywhere
so automating created twice the work checking its was right.
the only "transform" missing is
typedef struct foo_s {
    union {
        TA a; TB b;
    } n;
    TC c;
}foo * fooPtr;
(or nested struct)
has to become

union foo_u {
       TA a; TB b;
}
struct foo {
    foo_u u;
    TC c;
}
alias foo * fooPtr;
and you have to give anon struct/unions a name (which makes your code
horrid)

and D has align(n): to set the alignment if require



 Aug 08 2003



  parent reply "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com>  writes:


"Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bh0ufd$a6j$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 and you have to give anon struct/unions a name (which makes your code
 horrid)


Try this for anon struct/unions:


struct Foo
{
    union { int a; int b; }
    struct { int c; int d; }
}

void main()
{
    Foo f;

    printf("Foo.size = %d, a.offset = %d, b.offset = %d, c.offset = %d,
d.offset = %d\n",
 f.size,
 0,
 &f.b - &f.a,
 &f.c - &f.a,
 &f.d - &f.a);
}



 Aug 08 2003



  parent  "Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk>  writes:


"Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> wrote in message
news:bh0v53$auc$3 digitaldaemon.com...

 "Mike Wynn" <mike.wynn l8night.co.uk> wrote in message
 news:bh0ufd$a6j$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 and you have to give anon struct/unions a name (which makes your code
 horrid)


 Try this for anon struct/unions:


 struct Foo
 {
     union { int a; int b; }
     struct { int c; int d; }
 }


great I did not know that, exactly what is required to make variant much
nicer

just tried v0.68
Foo.size = 12, a.offset = 0, b.offset = 0, c.offset = 1,
d.offset = 2
though .... why not 4,8 (but remembered int * - int * )



 Aug 08 2003



prev sibling next sibling parent  Bill Cox <bill viasic.com>  writes:


Ant wrote:

 D wrap for GTK+
 
 Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
 probably 30+ hours
 
 my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
 The interest you show when I first let you know
 about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
 on the thing probably I will work on it slower.
 
 see the saved screen shots at
 http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/
 
 and help me with my compilation problem :( 
 
 Ant
 
 


Hi, Ant.

I'm very interested in the GTK+ wrapper.  We use GTK+ for GUI 
development under Linux, and MFC under Windows.  Not only is GTK+ more 
easily imported into D than MFC, but it has a higher likelyhood of being 
truely portable.  And, it's open source.

There's been some talk about having a common site for D projects.  If 
this happens, I'd suggest putting it up there.  I might even get talked 
into contributing a little, assuming you want additional coders.

Bill



 Aug 08 2003



prev sibling next sibling parent  "Carlos Santander B." <carlos8294 msn.com>  writes:


"Ant" <Ant_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
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| D wrap for GTK+
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Just saw the screenshots. It looks very good!

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 Aug 08 2003



prev sibling next sibling parent  Andy Friesen <andy ikagames.com>  writes:


DUI is the best library name EVER. :D

Ant wrote:

 D wrap for GTK+
 
 Ok guys I lost a lot of work (see my previous post)
 probably 30+ hours
 
 my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
 The interest you show when I first let you know
 about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
 on the thing probably I will work on it slower.
 
 see the saved screen shots at
 http://ca.geocities.com/arvmca/
 
 and help me with my compilation problem :( 
 
 Ant
 
 





 Aug 08 2003



prev sibling  parent reply Friedrich Dominicus <frido q-software-solutions.com>  writes:


Ant wrote:


 my wrap for GTK+ was ready for the first release.
 The interest you show when I first let you know
 about it was 0 (zero) so if nobody is interested
 on the thing probably I will work on it slower.


I'm sorry, but I can not find a place to download that software.
Is it still available?

Regards
Friedrich



 Aug 11 2003



  parent  Ant <Ant_member pathlink.com>  writes:


Not yet, maybe tonight, probably tomorrow night.

In article <bh85md$12s9$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Friedrich Dominicus says...


Is it still available?

Regards
Friedrich





 Aug 11 2003