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D - Wiki news and a few thoughts

reply Helmut Leitner <leitner hls.via.at> writes:
There are some new pages that may be interesting:

OneMinuteWiki explains the wiki
  <http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?OneMinuteWiki>

The GuestBook is waiting for entries
  <http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?GuestBook>

The EvaluationGuide needs proofreading
  <http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide>
describes the installation of the main components and 
free sources (DM, DMD, DIG, Pavel's and Daniel's).

Are there other free D sources?

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Wouldn't it also be nice to have a
 - D community project list (who is working on what)
 - D community task list (wishes looking for someone to to the work)
      - a tutorial?
      - a regex example source?
      - improvements to d2html?
      - a benchmark module 
      - ...
?


-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
Apr 01 2003
next sibling parent "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> writes:
Nice work!
Apr 01 2003
prev sibling parent reply "Luna Kid" <lunakid neuropolis.org> writes:
 Wouldn't it also be nice to have a
  - D community project list (who is working on what)


Excellent idea. You may also take into account that it
would likely be growing to something "bigger" that could
be better handled by some existing task/project management
software, saving you much duplicate work. But that may
be just far too ahead yet, dunno.


  - D community task list (wishes looking for someone to to the work)
       - a tutorial?
       - a regex example source?
       - improvements to d2html?
       - a benchmark module
       - ...
 ?


All of them would be very nice to have, of course. :)
Great stuff, sir Helmut!

One _pedantic_ comment to "The parts" at:
http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide#Theparts

To a newbie, the current hints may give the impression
that (s)he *must* do some hunting even if he only wants
to try the language itself (with e.g. a "Hello world").
It would be nice to make it explicit, that DMD + DM =
a _completely working_ language environment, _including_
phobos and printf, of course, and that all the rest is
fully optional.

(The above is indicated later, though, in the "Installation"
section.)

Cheers,
Luna Kid
Apr 03 2003
parent reply Helmut Leitner <leitner hls.via.at> writes:
Luna Kid wrote:

 

 Wouldn't it also be nice to have a
  - D community project list (who is working on what)


 
 Excellent idea. You may also take into account that it
 would likely be growing to something "bigger" that could
 be better handled by some existing task/project management
 software, saving you much duplicate work. But that may
 be just far too ahead yet, dunno.


Ok, lets see how far we can go using this wiki tool.
If we outgrow it, then surely someone will have an idea
how to go on...


  - D community task list (wishes looking for someone to to the work)
       - a tutorial?
       - a regex example source?
       - improvements to d2html?
       - a benchmark module
       - ...
 ?


 
 All of them would be very nice to have, of course. :)
 Great stuff, sir Helmut!


Visions are easy to create, even easier than objects. :-) 


 One _pedantic_ comment to "The parts" at:
 http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide#Theparts
 
 To a newbie, the current hints may give the impression
 that (s)he *must* do some hunting even if he only wants
 to try the language itself (with e.g. a "Hello world").
 It would be nice to make it explicit, that DMD + DM =
 a _completely working_ language environment, _including_
 phobos and printf, of course, and that all the rest is
 fully optional.
 
 (The above is indicated later, though, in the "Installation"
 section.)


Thank you for the feedback (I numbered the parts and added your
comment in parentheses). Is that better?

I hope that some time in the future anyone will just "Edit" the
pages if he sees something is missing.

If you want to be careful not to "interfere", you are always
welcome in a wiki to add a discussion section at the bottom of
any page. That's part of the wiki culture.

It's also part of the wiki culture, that ideas or pages 
itself are rarely thought to "belong" somebody. Everybody is able
and invited to participate. That's part of the fun.

-- 
Helmut Leitner    leitner hls.via.at
Graz, Austria   www.hls-software.com
Apr 03 2003
parent "Luna Kid" <lunakid neuropolis.org> writes:
 One _pedantic_ comment to "The parts" at:
 http://www.prowiki.org/wiki4d/wiki.cgi?EvaluationGuide#Theparts

 To a newbie, the current hints may give the impression
 that (s)he *must* do some hunting even if he only wants
 to try the language itself (with e.g. a "Hello world").
 It would be nice to make it explicit, that DMD + DM =
 a _completely working_ language environment, _including_
 phobos and printf, of course, and that all the rest is
 fully optional.

 (The above is indicated later, though, in the "Installation"
 section.)


 Thank you for the feedback (I numbered the parts and added your
 comment in parentheses). Is that better?


Yes, thanks!


 I hope that some time in the future anyone will just "Edit" the
 pages if he sees something is missing.

 If you want to be careful not to "interfere", you are always
 welcome in a wiki to add a discussion section at the bottom of
 any page. That's part of the wiki culture.

 It's also part of the wiki culture, that ideas or pages
 itself are rarely thought to "belong" somebody. Everybody is able
 and invited to participate. That's part of the fun.


Yeah, I've been meditating over this Wiki-style cooperation
for a while: I have not reached a state of revelation yet,
but I find it intriguing, how peer-editable documents can
apparently avoid drawning in entropy, and are able to actually
evolve, rather than erode... I see it can work, but the reasons
are still beyond me... :) Very interesting.

Cheers,
Luna Kid
Apr 03 2003