• Mac Reiter <Mac_member pathlink.com> Nov 03 2002
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Nov 04 2002
• Mac Reiter <Mac_member pathlink.com> Nov 04 2002
• Mac Reiter <Mac_member pathlink.com> Nov 04 2002
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Nov 04 2002

I am trying to use Digital Mars for some game development.  I had hoped to use
the "Open Dynamics Engine v0.03" to provide physics.  ODE only supports MSVC and
CygWin as Win32 compilers, but I thought I might be able to fake it with some
smallish modifications and the use of the DigitalMars CL.EXE command line
translator.

After fixing one or two #ifdef areas that misunderstood the compiler
environment, the next error I got could be tracked down to (eventually) the
following kind of code construct.  The names have been changed, just 'coz I felt
like it...

////////////////////
struct Thing : public RootOfAllEvil
{
struct LocalThing
{
void * SomeStuff;
};

LocalThing * Whoops;
};

Thing::LocalThing * __GlobalWhoops;
//////////////////////

At this point, anyone who attempts to use __GlobalWhoops as a Thing::LocalThing*
will be informed either than an explicit cast is needed, or that __GlobalWhoops
has already been defined as something else.  The gist of the problem is that the
compiler seems to think that __GlobalWhoops is of type Thing*, not of type
Thing::LocalThing*.  I have played with ordering and changing names, neither of
which has any effect.

Concerned that I might not have the newest compiler, I checked the version of
dmc, and was told 8.29n.  Which is odd, since I had applied the 8.30 CD patch.
To be safe, I downloaded the compiler-only 8.30c zip file and applied that.  The
version is still reported as 8.29n.

I finally gave up and moved all (there were several) local struct definitions
out of dxJoint (the class upon which the contrived Thing was based), and then
went around removing all of the scope resolution operators.  This poluted the
global name space, but at least it allowed the code to compile.

Now that the code compiles, I have a new problem.  While CL.EXE was able to
translate the compiler switches, I don't have anything to translate the linker
and librarian switches.  When the make file attempts to bundle things up into a
library, it chokes a great deal, confusing parts of the filespec as if it
thought they were switches.  For example:

Warning: Unknown switch 'src' in command line, ignored.
Warning: Unknown switch 'fastldlt' in command line, ignored.

So my three problems are:
1. Does DMC have a problem with local structs (structs within structs)?
2. Is the newest DMC supposed to report 8.29n?
3. How can I easily translate command line switches designed for MSVC librarian
to DMC librarian?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I would prefer to avoid going to CygWin,
due to past painful experiences.

Thanks,
Mac

"Mac Reiter" <Mac_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:aq4kt0$v7i$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 I am trying to use Digital Mars for some game development.  I had hoped to


 the "Open Dynamics Engine v0.03" to provide physics.  ODE only supports


 CygWin as Win32 compilers, but I thought I might be able to fake it with


 smallish modifications and the use of the DigitalMars CL.EXE command line
 translator.

 After fixing one or two #ifdef areas that misunderstood the compiler
 environment, the next error I got could be tracked down to (eventually)


 following kind of code construct.  The names have been changed, just 'coz


 like it...

 ////////////////////
 struct Thing : public RootOfAllEvil
 {
 struct LocalThing
 {
 void * SomeStuff;
 };

 LocalThing * Whoops;
 };

 Thing::LocalThing * __GlobalWhoops;
 //////////////////////

 At this point, anyone who attempts to use __GlobalWhoops as a


 will be informed either than an explicit cast is needed, or that


 has already been defined as something else.  The gist of the problem is


 compiler seems to think that __GlobalWhoops is of type Thing*, not of type
 Thing::LocalThing*.  I have played with ordering and changing names,


 which has any effect.

 Concerned that I might not have the newest compiler, I checked the version


 dmc, and was told 8.29n.  Which is odd, since I had applied the 8.30 CD


 To be safe, I downloaded the compiler-only 8.30c zip file and applied


 version is still reported as 8.29n.

 I finally gave up and moved all (there were several) local struct


 out of dxJoint (the class upon which the contrived Thing was based), and


 went around removing all of the scope resolution operators.  This poluted


 global name space, but at least it allowed the code to compile.

 Now that the code compiles, I have a new problem.  While CL.EXE was able


 translate the compiler switches, I don't have anything to translate the


 and librarian switches.  When the make file attempts to bundle things up


 library, it chokes a great deal, confusing parts of the filespec as if it
 thought they were switches.  For example:

 Warning: Unknown switch 'src' in command line, ignored.
 Warning: Unknown switch 'fastldlt' in command line, ignored.

 So my three problems are:
 1. Does DMC have a problem with local structs (structs within structs)?


Not that I know of. I'll check out your example.

 2. Is the newest DMC supposed to report 8.29n?


Try just typing scppn and see what it says.

 3. How can I easily translate command line switches designed for MSVC


 to DMC librarian?


It used to match, Microsoft changed theirs :-( Anyway, post the command
lines and we'll have a look.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated.  I would prefer to avoid going to


 due to past painful experiences.

 Thanks,
 Mac

 So my three problems are:
 1. Does DMC have a problem with local structs (structs within structs)?


Not that I know of. I'll check out your example.


If my example doesn't kick in, the actual code base I was working with was the
0.03 Open Dynamics Engine tarball.  I used the msvc configuration, and just
removed compiler command line arguments that CL.EXE didn't recognize (they were
optimization style flags, not functionality flags).  I would try to pair it
down, but if the example I gave doesn't trigger it, then I suspect it is
something bizarre about the context.  A Google search for Open Dynamics Engine
will find the site pretty quickly.

 2. Is the newest DMC supposed to report 8.29n?


Try just typing scppn and see what it says.


I'll try it out over lunch, while I'm home.

 3. How can I easily translate command line switches designed for MSVC


 to DMC librarian?


It used to match, Microsoft changed theirs :-( Anyway, post the command
lines and we'll have a look.


OK.  Thank you!
Mac

 2. Is the newest DMC supposed to report 8.29n?


Try just typing scppn and see what it says.


OK, I got 8.30.11 from that.

 3. How can I easily translate command line switches designed for MSVC


 to DMC librarian?


It used to match, Microsoft changed theirs :-( Anyway, post the command
lines and we'll have a look.


Here's the chunk of Makefile that is being used.  I think it is the AR line that
is giving me grief, but anyone with more MSVC and/or Make command line
experience will probably understand better.  I'm a bit of an IDE weenie
myself...

--------------------
WINDOWS=1
THIS_DIR=
DEL_CMD=tools\rm
CC=cl /nologo /DWIN32 /DMSVC
OBJ=.obj
C_FLAGS=/c /GR- /GX- /W3
C_INC=/ID:/Programming/ode-0.03/
C_OUT=/Fo
C_EXEOUT=/Fe
C_DEF=/D
C_OPT=/O
AR=lib /nologo /OUT:
RANLIB=
LIB_PREFIX=
LIB_SUFFIX=.lib
LINK_OPENGL=Comctl32.lib kernel32.lib user32.lib gdi32.lib OpenGL32.lib
Glu32.lib
LINK_MATH=
RC_RULE=rc /r /fo$  $<

ifeq ($(BUILD),release)
OPT=2
endif

ifeq ($(BUILD),debug)
OPT=d
endif
-------------------

Thanks again!
Mac

I think all you need to do for the librarian is:
    lib -c libraryname objfiles...
For the linker, just list the .lib files:
    link
obj+obj+obj,exe,map,Comctl32+kernel32+user32+gdi32+OpenGL32+Glu32.lib,def,re
s;


"Mac Reiter" <Mac_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:aq6f2l$2s4h$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 2. Is the newest DMC supposed to report 8.29n?


Try just typing scppn and see what it says.


 OK, I got 8.30.11 from that.

 3. How can I easily translate command line switches designed for MSVC


 to DMC librarian?


It used to match, Microsoft changed theirs :-( Anyway, post the command
lines and we'll have a look.


 Here's the chunk of Makefile that is being used.  I think it is the AR


 is giving me grief, but anyone with more MSVC and/or Make command line
 experience will probably understand better.  I'm a bit of an IDE weenie
 myself...

 --------------------
 WINDOWS=1
 THIS_DIR=
 DEL_CMD=tools\rm
 CC=cl /nologo /DWIN32 /DMSVC
 OBJ=.obj
 C_FLAGS=/c /GR- /GX- /W3
 C_INC=/ID:/Programming/ode-0.03/
 C_OUT=/Fo
 C_EXEOUT=/Fe
 C_DEF=/D
 C_OPT=/O
 AR=lib /nologo /OUT:
 RANLIB=
 LIB_PREFIX=
 LIB_SUFFIX=.lib
 LINK_OPENGL=Comctl32.lib kernel32.lib user32.lib gdi32.lib OpenGL32.lib
 Glu32.lib
 LINK_MATH=
 RC_RULE=rc /r /fo$  $<

 ifeq ($(BUILD),release)
 OPT=2
 endif

 ifeq ($(BUILD),debug)
 OPT=d
 endif
 -------------------

 Thanks again!
 Mac