• "Aurura" <aurura ev1.net> Sep 16 2002
• bw <bw_member pathlink.com> Sep 16 2002
• "Aurura" <aurura ev1.net> Sep 16 2002
• bw <bw_member pathlink.com> Sep 16 2002
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Sep 16 2002
• bw <bw_member pathlink.com> Sep 16 2002
• "Aurura" <aurura ev1.net> Sep 16 2002
• bw <bw_member pathlink.com> Sep 16 2002
• "Walter" <walter digitalmars.com> Sep 16 2002

..of C++?  I have found many tutorials,  but they all assume the reader already
has some kind of former knowledge of C++, or at least C.  I've read from one
source not to bother trying to learn C first, to avoid having to "unlearn"
several things about it in order to better understand C++.

I'm *very* new at all of this.  I haven't the slightest idea what "include" is,
an "iostream", "int main",  what the symbols "<<" represent, etc.

Can anyone point me to a glossary, please?

Thanks So Much,

Aurura

here's a decent FAQ
http://snurse-l.org/acllc-c++/faq.html

just jump in anywhere, there's all kinds of information available.  one book i
really liked when i was brand new was "C++ How to Program" by Deitel & Deitel,
though i've seen a lot of people criticize it.  i pick up good books dirt cheap
from the local used bookstore, can't hurt to have plenty of books.

i wouldn't say "not to bother" with C because it is a great language!!  but i
think you should treat them as different languages, keep your files named .C or
CPP for whatever's appropriate.  it's not going to hurt you to learn C, in my
opinion.  there's plenty to learn on both sides and you won't be bored, that's
for sure...

did you compile,link and run "hello.cpp" yet?  it's a good starting point, kinda
silly but usually the first thing i do with any new compiler just to check it
out.

don't quit or you're a weenie!
bw

In article <am500u$2dl6$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Aurura says...
..of C++?  I have found many tutorials,  but they all assume the reader already
has some kind of former knowledge of C++, or at least C.  I've read from one
source not to bother trying to learn C first, to avoid having to "unlearn"
several things about it in order to better understand C++.

I'm *very* new at all of this.  I haven't the slightest idea what "include" is,
an "iostream", "int main",  what the symbols "<<" represent, etc.

Can anyone point me to a glossary, please?

Thanks So Much,

Aurura

Dear Bw,

Thank you for your reply!  I  see now that I cannot avoid the fact that buying a
book would give me the advantage I need.  I was at first hoping I'd find
everything I'd need online...   But hey, I appreciate the advice.

Yes, I've tried the suggested "hello" thing, modifying the sc.ini file (and, of
course, saving it under a different name).  But again, I have no idea what I'm
doing.   I did not understand the instruction in DigiMars' "readme" file, due to
not knowing the definitions to the functions...  and I am very open to a better
understanding of it from anyone.

At this point, I happened to find a few C++ glossaries, and even a C glossary
online.  They are limited, but at least I'm getting *some* kind of a start.

And don't worry.  I won't give up... so long as I have such encouragement to
lean on!  (I don't wanna be a "weenie".  hahaaaa)

Thanks and feel free to reply again,

Aurura

naw, i don't think you need to mess with the sc.ini.. you need a good plain
ascii editor, notepad will work if that's all you have.  change to whatever
subdirectory that hello.cpp is in and type 

c:\dm\bin\sc.exe hello.cpp

then type hello.exe to run the program you just made.  that's assuming you
installed the compiler in the dm folder on the c:

there's three different compilers the dmc.exe the sc.exe and the scppn.exe but i
don't know if there's any difference or not??  i'm kinda new to digital mars
too...

good luck!  and yeh books are great, you know software used to actually HAVE
PRINTED DOCUMENTATION before the cd and the net got so popular.  i picked up an
old version of visual C++ professional a few years back real cheap it has about
100lbs of books with it.

plus, you know if the power goes out.. a book still works!

L8r,
bw

In article <am55u0$2k76$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Aurura says...
Yes, I've tried the suggested "hello" thing, modifying the sc.ini file (and, of
course, saving it under a different name).  But again, I have no idea what I'm
doing.   I did not understand the instruction in DigiMars' "readme" file, due 

"bw" <bw_member pathlink.com> wrote in message
news:am56t8$2ldv$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 good luck!  and yeh books are great, you know software used to actually


 PRINTED DOCUMENTATION before the cd and the net got so popular.  i picked


 old version of visual C++ professional a few years back real cheap it has


 100lbs of books with it.


Printing/shipping costs have made that completely impractical now.

nothing reads like a book!!  but shoot i guess leaving it out has kept software
prices down quite a bit, plus opened up opportunities for writers.

In article <am5fkb$2v3v$2 digitaldaemon.com>, Walter says...
 good luck!  and yeh books are great, you know software used to actually


 PRINTED DOCUMENTATION before the cd and the net got so popular.




Printing/shipping costs have made that completely impractical now.

..it would seem that I don't even *have* hello.cpp  .  I did a Find in My
Computer, and it didn't find it anywhere.  Was this supposed to be there once I
unzipped DigiMars?

I'm a bit confused now-  Am I supposed to be writing programs in Notepad, or the
DigiMars compiler?  Which .exe file is the one I'm supposed to use to create
programs in the MSDOS prompt?

Up front, I really have appreciated everyone's kindness in response to my
inquiries.  Any further help is appreciated.

Thank You,

Me

hey i've been there, it's confusing at first... yeh you make source files with
an editor and use the compiler to do what is in them, like a code.  i bet you've
figured it out by now.  personally, i kind of enjoy the dos prompt, and i use a
thing called QEdit for editing files.  it's real fast and totally configurable,
great for programming once you set it up right.  
sure you can use windows notepad until you can get something better, edit in one
window, switch to the console window to compile and check for errors.  

there's a digital mars cd that looks like a terrific deal, it has an editor
interface like what you probably expected from the download.  shoot i bet it's a
few dozen megs large at least just for the documentation, hey do you REALLY need
hello.cpp?  i think i have version 1.3 around here somewhere.. lemmo know!

bw

In article <am5r5p$a9u$1 digitaldaemon.com>, Aurura says...
..it would seem that I don't even *have* hello.cpp  .  I did a Find in My
Computer, and it didn't find it anywhere.  Was this supposed to be there once I
unzipped DigiMars?

I'm a bit confused now-  Am I supposed to be writing programs in Notepad, or the
DigiMars compiler?  Which .exe file is the one I'm supposed to use to create
programs in the MSDOS prompt?

Up front, I really have appreciated everyone's kindness in response to my
inquiries.  Any further help is appreciated.

Thank You,

Me

Check out: www.digitalmars.com/bibliography.html for your first
stop. -Walter

"Aurura" <aurura ev1.net> wrote in message
news:am500u$2dl6$1 digitaldaemon.com...
 ..of C++?  I have found many tutorials,  but they all assume the reader


 has some kind of former knowledge of C++, or at least C.  I've read from


 source not to bother trying to learn C first, to avoid having to "unlearn"
 several things about it in order to better understand C++.

 I'm *very* new at all of this.  I haven't the slightest idea what


 an "iostream", "int main",  what the symbols "<<" represent, etc.

 Can anyone point me to a glossary, please?

 Thanks So Much,

 Aurura