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digitalmars.D.announce - D Conference 2007

reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
is to gauge the level of interest.

It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
prime vacation spots.

It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.
Nov 15 2006
next sibling parent reply Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Contingent on my ability to get there free of charge, I would attend. I 
might even have something to present on.
Nov 16 2006
parent reply Brad Roberts <braddr puremagic.com> writes:
Kyle Furlong wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


 
 Contingent on my ability to get there free of charge, I would attend. I 
 might even have something to present on.


I can say with reasonable certainty that there'd be no budget for 
sponsoring anyone, sorry.  We're looking at sponsored meeting space 
right now, which is non-trivial all by itself.

Sorry,
Brad
Nov 16 2006
parent reply Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Brad Roberts wrote:

 Kyle Furlong wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This 
 announcement is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


 Contingent on my ability to get there free of charge, I would attend. 
 I might even have something to present on.


 
 I can say with reasonable certainty that there'd be no budget for 
 sponsoring anyone, sorry.  We're looking at sponsored meeting space 
 right now, which is non-trivial all by itself.
 
 Sorry,
 Brad


I didn't expect it, more along the lines of hitching a ride with 
someone, or a cheap train/plane ticket. I'm not BROKE, but I don't have 
any sort of budget for travel. (Being a student is bad sometimes)
Nov 16 2006
parent =?iso-8859-1?q?Knud_S=F8rensen?= <12tkvvb02 sneakemail.com> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 00:41:01 -0800, Kyle Furlong wrote:



 
 I can say with reasonable certainty that there'd be no budget for 
 sponsoring anyone, sorry.  We're looking at sponsored meeting space 
 right now, which is non-trivial all by itself.
 
 Sorry,
 Brad


 
 I didn't expect it, more along the lines of hitching a ride with 
 someone, or a cheap train/plane ticket. I'm not BROKE, but I don't have 
 any sort of budget for travel. (Being a student is bad sometimes)


Here is a idea for you
http://pleasesendustolinuxconfau.info/
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Why not schedule it a immediately before or after SDWest, and host it in 
the same building?
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Just a point on fares and destinations for us Europeans; We are more likely
to find direct flights to Seattle (there are from Copenhagen for instance),
and it will be expensive :P My first search gave me 1200USD for a roundtrip
in June.

There are several possible difficulties, but I will try to come.

-- 
Lars Ivar Igesund
blog at http://larsivi.net
DSource & #D: larsivi
Nov 16 2006
next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:

 Just a point on fares and destinations for us Europeans; We are more likely
 to find direct flights to Seattle (there are from Copenhagen for instance),
 and it will be expensive :P My first search gave me 1200USD for a roundtrip
 in June.
 
 There are several possible difficulties, but I will try to come.


Sometimes there can be dramatic differences in fares to Portland, 
Seattle, or Vancouver BC., which would be traded off in driving time.
Nov 16 2006
parent Lars Ivar Igesund <larsivar igesund.net> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:


 Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:

 Just a point on fares and destinations for us Europeans; We are more
 likely to find direct flights to Seattle (there are from Copenhagen for
 instance), and it will be expensive :P My first search gave me 1200USD
 for a roundtrip in June.
 
 There are several possible difficulties, but I will try to come.


 
 Sometimes there can be dramatic differences in fares to Portland,
 Seattle, or Vancouver BC., which would be traded off in driving time.


This might be true for US residents, but the airline above have no flights
to Canada, and the flight to Portland goes via Seattle and more than
doubles the price :)

The above price was with Scandinavian (SAS), KLM had slightly more expensive
fares, other alternatives (BA, etc) might apply to residents of other
European countries.

Note that students might find better offers using Kilroy Travels, whereas
travelling agencies for non-students generally leads to more expensive
tickets than buying directly from airline.

-- 
Lars Ivar Igesund
blog at http://larsivi.net
DSource & #D: larsivi
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling parent Derek Parnell <derek psych.ward> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:56:44 +0100, Lars Ivar Igesund wrote:


 Walter Bright wrote:
 

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


 
 Just a point on fares and destinations for us Europeans; We are more likely
 to find direct flights to Seattle (there are from Copenhagen for instance),
 and it will be expensive :P My first search gave me 1200USD for a roundtrip
 in June.
 
 There are several possible difficulties, but I will try to come.


LOL ... From Australia the best fares are around 2100USD but typically
closer to 4000USD. So why not meet half way, say Hawaii or Tahiti?

-- 
Derek Parnell
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Kirk McDonald <kirklin.mcdonald gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Since I'm located in Portland, Oregon, both of those places are just a 
few hours away. I'd almost certainly make a point of showing up. I might 
even be willing to say something about Pyd.

-- 
Kirk McDonald
Pyd: Wrapping Python with D
http://pyd.dsource.org
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Brad Anderson <brad dsource.org> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Nearer to April 20, and I'll be in Seattle anyway, I'm pretty sure.

BA
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Walter Bright" <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote in message 
news:ejh5ec$10gc$1 digitaldaemon.com...

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D conference. 
 We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement is to gauge the 
 level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It would 
 be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are prime 
 vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Agh, you're killing me.  How about hosting it in Pittsburgh ;)

It's something I'd really love to go to, but I really don't know if I'll 
have the money or the time to do so.  Although, in the (very) off chance 
that I'd be out in Redmond for an MS internship for a scholarship over the 
summer, that might make it a little easier..
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


For me it depends largely on timing, but I'd like to go if my schedule 
allows.


Sean
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Dejan Lekic <dejan.lekic gmail.com> writes:
Mr. Bright,
I would gladly come if it will be some time during the spring. I hope You would
provide some information about hotels in Seattle or Astoria. I have some ideas
what to present, if You wish I can already start preparing.

Kind regards, and keep with Your excellent work on D and DMDScript (which btw. I
could not compile with previous version of DMD, on my GNU/Linux box)

Dejan Lekic
Nov 16 2006
parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Dejan Lekic wrote:

 Mr. Bright,
 I would gladly come if it will be some time during the spring. I hope You would
 provide some information about hotels in Seattle or Astoria. I have some ideas
 what to present, if You wish I can already start preparing.


Once we settle on a location, we'll provide hotel information. Probably 
we'll set up a web page with all the details. If you are ready to start 
preparing, by all means!


 Kind regards, and keep with Your excellent work on D and DMDScript (which btw.
I
 could not compile with previous version of DMD, on my GNU/Linux box)


Why not upgrade to the latest DMD?
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Mark Wrenn <mark binarytheory.com> writes:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:53:47 -0800, Walter Bright wrote:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Great idea.  I'd love to attend.  I live in San Diego (Oceanside) so I'm
sure a Southwest flight would be pretty cheap.  I like the suggestion to
tack this on to the end of SD West or some other conference.  It might make
it easier for various companies to pay for the trip.

Mark aka mrw
Nov 16 2006
parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Mark Wrenn wrote:

 Great idea.  I'd love to attend.  I live in San Diego (Oceanside) so I'm
 sure a Southwest flight would be pretty cheap.  I like the suggestion to
 tack this on to the end of SD West or some other conference.  It might make
 it easier for various companies to pay for the trip.


At the end of sdwest most people just want the first plane outta there 
to go home.
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply Georg Wrede <georg.wrede nospam.org> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.


As a European, I've seen vacation spots, so Astoria doesn't sound too 
exotic. But Seattle! The home of Frasier the shrink, the Space Needle, 
Boeing, and Microsoft.
Nov 16 2006
parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Georg Wrede wrote:

 Walter Bright wrote:

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.


 
 As a European, I've seen vacation spots, so Astoria doesn't sound too 
 exotic.


Astoria is near Cannon Beach, which boasts probably the most scenic 
coastline in the US. The Oregon coasts near Astoria have some incredible 
beaches, further south highway 101 is famous for being scenic.

http://www.astoria-usa.com/
http://www.cannonbeach.org/


 But Seattle! The home of Frasier the shrink,


Filmed in Los Angeles. The movie "Sleepless in Seattle" was actually 
filmed in Seattle. "Goonies" and "Kindergarten Cop" were filmed in 
Astoria. Neither show much of the town.


 the Space Needle,


That is not to be missed.


 Boeing,


Boeing has nice factory tours open to the public. The Boeing Flight 
Museum has amassed an incredible collection, it's not to be missed if 
you have the slightest interest in aviation. They even have an SR-71 and 
a Concorde! If the weather's good, you can even hitch a ride on a 
biplane there.

http://www.museumofflight.org/


 and Microsoft.


You won't see anything there - it's just a bunch of office buildings 
with rather tight security.
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Julio_C=E9sar_Carrascal_Urquijo?= writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Please, tape the whole event and post it on Google Video for those of us 
that don't even have hope of attending (As much as we would like it).

Sniff
Nov 16 2006
parent reply Serg Kovrov <kovrov no.spam> writes:
Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Please, tape the whole event and post it on Google Video for those of us 
 that don't even have hope of attending (As much as we would like it).


++count

To record whole event is a great idea indeed! And perhaps beside 
publishing on google video/youtube it would be nice to have high quality 
version distributed via bittorrent.

-- 
serg.
Nov 16 2006
next sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Serg Kovrov wrote:

 Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Please, tape the whole event and post it on Google Video for those of 
 us that don't even have hope of attending (As much as we would like it).


 
 ++count
 
 To record whole event is a great idea indeed! And perhaps beside 
 publishing on google video/youtube it would be nice to have high quality 
 version distributed via bittorrent.


I'm sure that can be arranged.
Nov 16 2006
parent Lutger <lutger.blijdestijn gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Serg Kovrov wrote:

 Julio César Carrascal Urquijo wrote:

 Please, tape the whole event and post it on Google Video for those of 
 us that don't even have hope of attending (As much as we would like it).


 ++count

 To record whole event is a great idea indeed! And perhaps beside 
 publishing on google video/youtube it would be nice to have high 
 quality version distributed via bittorrent.


 
 I'm sure that can be arranged.


That'll be nice. Since presentations are held, perhaps people can turn 
them into papers for the online D journal?
After the massive migration to D caused by going 1.0 in january (besides 
D being a kick-ass language to program in) there might be an increased 
demand for quality papers...
Nov 17 2006
prev sibling parent "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Serg Kovrov" <kovrov no.spam> wrote in message 
news:ejj8is$hmg$1 digitaldaemon.com...


 ++count

 To record whole event is a great idea indeed! And perhaps beside 
 publishing on google video/youtube it would be nice to have high quality 
 version distributed via bittorrent.


Indeed.  Not to mention I'd like to finally see the face of the man behind 
the language ;)
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Chad J <gamerChad _spamIsBad_gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


This is something I would love to go to, but am not willing to pay the 
large cash to go to.

(studentacious employment /potential/ of a mcjob)
Nov 16 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "John Reimer" <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:53:47 -0800, Walter Bright  
<newshound digitalmars.com> wrote:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D  
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement  
 is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It  
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are  
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It  
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.



It probably wouldn't be to difficult for me to make it... after all, I'm  
just north of there by several hours. :)

-JJR
Nov 16 2006
parent reply Bill Baxter <dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> writes:
John Reimer wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:53:47 -0800, Walter Bright 
 <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote:
 

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


 
 
 It probably wouldn't be to difficult for me to make it... after all, I'm 
 just north of there by several hours. :)
 
 -JJR



Hmm.  Judging from http://www.frappr.com/d , it looks like holding the 
conference somewhere around Munich would put it with in easy reach of 
the maximum number of people.

...But it's hard to tell from the frappr map.  Sometimes people's 
markers get piled on top of each other, and of course, lots of people 
just aren't on the map.

I won't be coming either way unless it's in Tokyo.  :-)  Or co-located 
SIGGRAPH 2007 in San Diego.

--bb
Nov 16 2006
parent reply "John Reimer" <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:50:50 -0800, Bill Baxter  
<dnewsgroup billbaxter.com> wrote:


 John Reimer wrote:

 On Wed, 15 Nov 2006 23:53:47 -0800, Walter Bright  
 <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D  
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement  
 is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It  
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are  
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It  
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


   It probably wouldn't be to difficult for me to make it... after all,  
 I'm just north of there by several hours. :)
  -JJR



 Hmm.  Judging from http://www.frappr.com/d , it looks like holding the  
 conference somewhere around Munich would put it with in easy reach of  
 the maximum number of people.

 ...But it's hard to tell from the frappr map.  Sometimes people's  
 markers get piled on top of each other, and of course, lots of people  
 just aren't on the map.

 I won't be coming either way unless it's in Tokyo.  :-)  Or co-located  
 SIGGRAPH 2007 in San Diego.

 --bb



I don't think frappr is an accurate indicator of the online presence.  I  
removed myself from the map there because I didn't like being associated  
with the site.  The main site was so full of junk groups, at the time,  
that I didn't want any of my personal information near it.  I had no trust  
in the site.

As far as location goes, that will always be a tough decison, and usually  
the only practical one is to default to the location closest to the  
designer. :)

It is unfortunate, though, that more Europeans couldn't be involved in  
such a Conference.  It's clearly evident that some of the most influential  
D community members are from overseas.

-JJR
Nov 16 2006
parent reply Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.cn> writes:
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John Reimer schrieb am 2006-11-17:

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 It is unfortunate, though, that more Europeans couldn't be involved in  
 such a Conference.  It's clearly evident that some of the most influential  
 D community members are from overseas.


I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans.

Co-hosting somewhere in Europe should enable quite few more to take part
in this gathering. Yes renting a second place and providing the video
infrastructure is no replacement for a person-to-person meeting.

Thomas


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Nov 16 2006
next sibling parent reply "John Reimer" <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:19:56 -0800, Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.cn>  
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 John Reimer schrieb am 2006-11-17:

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:50:50 -0800, Bill Baxter



 It is unfortunate, though, that more Europeans couldn't be involved in
 such a Conference.  It's clearly evident that some of the most  
 influential
 D community members are from overseas.


 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
 most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans.



Ouch!  That's expensive!  It's no where near that costly to fly from here  
to Europe.  My Trip to Manchester, England this month cost me just over  
$1080 Canadian (about $950 US) return and that wasn't even an  
exceptionally competitive price (although the only available at the  
time).  I admit that its certainly cheaper making the trip from here to  
there.  That does seem to favour the idea of a European convention  
someday.  I certainly wouldn't mind.  I'm starting to like any excuse for  
a little holiday. :)



 Co-hosting somewhere in Europe should enable quite few more to take part
 in this gathering. Yes renting a second place and providing the video
 infrastructure is no replacement for a person-to-person meeting.

 Thomas



An interesting idea.  By "Co-hosting" do you mean a realtime  
video-conference of sorts? Or do you just mean just hosting another  
conference in Europe on another occasion?

-JJR
Nov 16 2006
parent Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.cn> writes:
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John Reimer schrieb am 2006-11-17:

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:19:56 -0800, Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.cn>  
 wrote:



 Co-hosting somewhere in Europe should enable quite few more to take part
 in this gathering. Yes renting a second place and providing the video
 infrastructure is no replacement for a person-to-person meeting.





 An interesting idea.  By "Co-hosting" do you mean a realtime  
 video-conference of sorts? Or do you just mean just hosting another  
 conference in Europe on another occasion?


Realtime.

Thomas


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Nov 19 2006
prev sibling parent reply Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Thomas Kuehne wrote:

 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
 most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans.


Would prices be lower if we did it off season?

I just checked with www.expedia.com for a weekend in late March round 
trip Seattle <=> Frankfurt. Fares range from $518 on up. Car rental, add 
another $200 - $300 (guessing). Hotels in Astoria, can probably do for 
$100/night. Seattle hotels are probably higher.

It's a lot of money, no two ways about it.
Nov 16 2006
next sibling parent Roberto Mariottini <rmariottini mail.com> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Thomas Kuehne wrote:

 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
 most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans.


 
 Would prices be lower if we did it off season?
 
 I just checked with www.expedia.com for a weekend in late March round 
 trip Seattle <=> Frankfurt. Fares range from $518 on up. Car rental, add 
 another $200 - $300 (guessing). Hotels in Astoria, can probably do for 
 $100/night. Seattle hotels are probably higher.
 
 It's a lot of money, no two ways about it.


Let's make the European D Conference 2007, say in October, it can be in 
any European hub such as Amsterdam, Paris, London.

Ciao
Nov 17 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent reply "John Reimer" <terminal.node gmail.com> writes:
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 $100/night. Seattle hotels are probably higher.

 It's a lot of money, no two ways about it.



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thought it's a round trip either way?  Not sure why.

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find the least expensive route, even if it means a little hardship.  :)

-JJR
Nov 17 2006
next sibling parent Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> writes:
John Reimer wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:41:32 -0800, Walter Bright 
 <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote:
 

 Thomas Kuehne wrote:

 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
 most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans.


 Would prices be lower if we did it off season?

 I just checked with www.expedia.com for a weekend in late March round 
 trip Seattle <=> Frankfurt. Fares range from $518 on up. Car rental, 
 add another $200 - $300 (guessing). Hotels in Astoria, can probably do 
 for $100/night. Seattle hotels are probably higher.

 It's a lot of money, no two ways about it.


 
 
 I think the flights are much cheaper going from here to there... Did you 
 check the other way around?  It seems that it makes a difference even 
 thought it's a round trip either way?  Not sure why.
 
 Hotels are pretty expensive... would almost be better to find a way to 
 camp out.  That's one way to get to know new country.  I always try to 
 find the least expensive route, even if it means a little hardship.  :)
 
 -JJR


Well if I have to spend a few hundred, just in airfare, then that pretty 
much puts me in a campground someplace too.  Then there's the last mile: 
transportation.

I'm googling around, but I'm not seeing much in the way of camping 
that's drivable to downtown. :(

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo
Nov 17 2006
prev sibling parent reply Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
John Reimer wrote:

 On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:41:32 -0800, Walter Bright 
 <newshound digitalmars.com> wrote:
 

 Thomas Kuehne wrote:

 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
 most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans..


 Would prices be lower if we did it off season?

 I just checked with www.expedia.com for a weekend in late March round 
 trip Seattle <=> Frankfurt. Fares range from $518 on up. Car rental, 
 add another $200 - $300 (guessing). Hotels in Astoria, can probably do 
 for $100/night. Seattle hotels are probably higher.

 It's a lot of money, no two ways about it.


 
 I think the flights are much cheaper going from here to there... Did you 
 check the other way around?  It seems that it makes a difference even 
 thought it's a round trip either way?  Not sure why.


That's what I was wondering about two round trips.  Just "miss" the legs 
that you don't need and make sure they don't cancel the ticket 
altogether for doing so.  Assuming that is actually legal, of course.


Sean
Nov 17 2006
parent Walter Bright <newshound digitalmars.com> writes:
Sean Kelly wrote:

 That's what I was wondering about two round trips.  Just "miss" the legs 
 that you don't need and make sure they don't cancel the ticket 
 altogether for doing so.  Assuming that is actually legal, of course.


I did that once years ago, when a "weekend stay" roundtrip cost less 
than half. So I bought two roundtrips, and used one leg of each. Crazy.
Nov 17 2006
prev sibling next sibling parent Sean Kelly <sean f4.ca> writes:
Walter Bright wrote:

 Thomas Kuehne wrote:

 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
 most likely require somewhere around US$ 2000-3000 for most Europeans.


 
 Would prices be lower if we did it off season?
 
 I just checked with www.expedia.com for a weekend in late March round 
 trip Seattle <=> Frankfurt. Fares range from $518 on up. Car rental, add 
 another $200 - $300 (guessing). Hotels in Astoria, can probably do for 
 $100/night. Seattle hotels are probably higher.
 
 It's a lot of money, no two ways about it.


I don't suppose one could book flights in the US for a foreign traveler? 
  Even two round trips at that cost would be cheaper than one booked in 
Europe, or so it seems.


Sean
Nov 17 2006
prev sibling parent Thomas Kuehne <thomas-dloop kuehne.cn> writes:
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 I'd love to come to the Westcoast, but as other have hinted this would
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 Would prices be lower if we did it off season?


Yes, ca. 1/2-2/3 of the season prices.

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Nov 19 2006
prev sibling parent reply Carlos Santander <csantander619 gmail.com> writes:
Walter Bright escribió:

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.
 
 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.
 
 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


Any updates on this?

-- 
Carlos Santander Bernal
Jan 08 2007
next sibling parent reply Georg Wrede <georg nospam.org> writes:
Carlos Santander wrote:

 Walter Bright escribió:
 

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


 
 
 Any updates on this?


Last year Seatlle, U.S., this year Helsinki, EU?
Jan 08 2007
next sibling parent reply Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> writes:
Georg Wrede wrote:

 Carlos Santander wrote:

 Walter Bright escribió:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This 
 announcement is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.



 Any updates on this?


 
 Last year Seatlle, U.S., this year Helsinki, EU?


How about Washington, DC?  Any takers?

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo
Jan 09 2007
next sibling parent reply Kyle Furlong <kylefurlong gmail.com> writes:
Pragma wrote:

 Georg Wrede wrote:

 Carlos Santander wrote:

 Walter Bright escribió:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This 
 announcement is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. 
 It would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.



 Any updates on this?


 Last year Seatlle, U.S., this year Helsinki, EU?


 
 How about Washington, DC?  Any takers?
 


Depends what time of year. DC can be soooo muggy.
Jan 09 2007
parent Pragma <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> writes:
Kyle Furlong wrote:

 Pragma wrote:

 Georg Wrede wrote:

 Carlos Santander wrote:

 Walter Bright escribió:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This 
 announcement is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. 
 It would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.



 Any updates on this?


 Last year Seatlle, U.S., this year Helsinki, EU?


 How about Washington, DC?  Any takers?


 
 Depends what time of year. DC can be soooo muggy.


Granted.  Late spring into early summer, the downtown area can get a 
little uncomfortable*.  But it has nothing on, say, Miami or New Orleans 
during the same time of year.  Besides, every place has AC around here 
so we're prepared for it. ;)

But what it lacks in terms of weather and vistas, it makes up for in 
spades with historic locations, monuments, free museums, dining, lodging 
and best of all: it's location.

Another perk that others might find interesting: It's a much shorter 
flight for the EU folks on the list.

-- 
- EricAnderton at yahoo
Jan 09 2007
prev sibling parent "Jarrett Billingsley" <kb3ctd2 yahoo.com> writes:
"Pragma" <ericanderton yahoo.removeme.com> wrote in message 
news:eo0ce7$2cvh$1 digitaldaemon.com...


 How about Washington, DC?  Any takers?


Now there's a location that's actually reasonable ;)
Jan 09 2007
prev sibling parent Alexander Panek <a.panek brainsware.org> writes:
Georg Wrede wrote:

 Carlos Santander wrote:

 Walter Bright escribió:


 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This 
 announcement is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.



 Any updates on this?


 
 Last year Seatlle, U.S., this year Helsinki, EU?


How about Vienna?

+1 for Vienna

(Yes, that's where I live :P)
Jan 09 2007
prev sibling parent reply kris <fu bar.org> writes:
Carlos Santander wrote:

 Walter Bright escribió:
 

 Brad Roberts and I have been discussing putting on the first D 
 conference. We'd at last all get to meet each other! This announcement 
 is to gauge the level of interest.

 It would be either in the spring (March) or early summer (June). It 
 would be in Seattle, Washington or Astoria, Oregon. Both places are 
 prime vacation spots.

 It would be 1 or 2 days, depending on the number of presentations. It 
 would need commitments from at least 20 people to make it a go.


 
 
 Any updates on this?
 


There were two D conferences last year ... one in Poland and one in the 
Czech Republic. That Larsivi fellow was at both of them -- isn't there a 
prize for that sort of dedication?
Jan 08 2007
parent Brad Anderson <brad dsource.org> writes:
kris wrote:

 There were two D conferences last year ... one in Poland and one in the
 Czech Republic. That Larsivi fellow was at both of them -- isn't there a
 prize for that sort of dedication?


Is there a prize related to D that he is not deserving of?  Bueller?  Bueller?

BA
Jan 08 2007